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PIPER J3C-85

Everything here is true of every aircraft of the type, not of any one aircraft.

The J3C-85: a J3C-65 fitted with the 85 hp Continental C-85, an optional engine listed on the type certificate for landplane, skiplane and seaplane use. Everything else -- the 35 ft 3 in wing, the steel tube fuselage, the tandem seats, the 12 gallon tank in front of the windscreen -- is the standard Cub. More power in a Cub buys climb and a shorter takeoff, not speed; the airframe runs out of aerodynamics long before it runs out of horsepower.

A J-3 is a slow, light, honest aeroplane with a stick, no electrics worth the name, and a fuel gauge that is a wire bobbing in front of the windscreen. It teaches stick-and-rudder flying better than anything built since and it will not take you anywhere in a hurry or in weather. Ownership is cheap by aviation standards and the parts supply is excellent because so many were built, but the airframe is steel tube and fabric: the recover is the big bill, tube corrosion under the fabric is the thing that ends aeroplanes, and a tailwheel endorsement plus real instruction is not optional.

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What it is

Seats2
Landing geartaildragger
Engines1
EngineContinental C-85-12
Horsepower85 hp
Fuel100LL
Certification basisCAR3
Production start1939
Production end1947
Endorsements requiredtailwheel

Performance

Cruise speed70 KTAS
Range190 nm
Service ceiling12,305 ft
Climb rate588 ft/min
Stall speed (Vso)33 KCAS
Takeoff over 50 ft730 ft
Landing over 50 ft470 ft

Load and fuel

Seats2
Useful load526 lb
Full-fuel payload454 lb
Max takeoff weight1,220 lb
Empty weight694 lb
Usable fuel12 gal
Fuel burn at cruise4.8 gal/h

Cost of ownership

Price, low$40,000
Price, high$75,000
Prices as of2026
Engine TBO1,800 h
Overhaul cost, low$22,000
Overhaul cost, high$32,000

The fleet and its record

Registered, all time54
Active fleet34
Median year built1945.0
NTSB events, last 10 years0
Fatal events, last 10 years0
Events per 1,000 active, last 10 years0 · thin base (low)1
Personal-flying events per 1,000 active0 · thin base (low)2
Ownership transfers, last 24 months7
Transfers per 100 active20.59 · thin base (low)3
Airworthiness directives0
Directives, last 5 years0
Rate confidencelow
  1. Events per 1,000 active, last 10 years: per 1,000 active aircraft · base 34 active.
  2. Personal-flying events per 1,000 active: per 1,000 active aircraft · base 34 active.
  3. Transfers per 100 active: per 100 active aircraft · base 34 active.

Peer scores6

Peer classFixed wing single-engine, piston, 1 engine, 1-2 seats
Accident record—1
Severity—2
Access—3
Support3.2 of 104
Liquidity5 of 105
  1. Accident record: class median 29.1 · 174 models in class.
  2. Severity: class median 9.09.
  3. Access: class median 974.
  4. Support: class median 81.
  5. Liquidity: class median 20.47.
  6. Each of the five categories places the model within its peer class, from 0 (the worst of the class) to 10 (the best): a position among comparable models, not a grade. The overall score is the sum of the categories shown that are scored, out of 10 for each (50 when all five are); it is given only when at least 4 of the five are scored, and it can be set against another model's only when both are in the same peer class and scored on the same categories.
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